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5/10/10 * Question;
I have a Baby Grand Piano.
It’s going in our family room which has surround sound
for the television. When the surround sound
is on or if there is lots of noise in the room the
vibration moves the keys which in turn the piano makes
sounds. Is there a blanket of some sort that
can go inside the piano when not in use so this doesn’t
happen. I looked on line but was not able to find
one. I was concerned about using a regular
blanket and though there may be some sort of muffler or
barrier I can put inside. Thank you for your time in
responding. Cheryl
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5/6/10 * Question;
Hi... I'm in
Huntington,NY 11743,& have a Yamaha electric portable
baby grand CP-70b. Still pretty well in A440 tune even
though hasn't been tuned in maybe 35 years! Lower octave
needs tuning,though. So,I would like to get a full
tuning done,but I'm afraid to let someone who has never
done one of this PARTICULAR model before. Is there
ANYONE in my area experienced with THIS
instrument? I wouldn't want someone inexperienced,that
would end up breaking strings,or otherwise causing more
problems than good! Or am I being overly
concerned?
b3mikeforst@aol.com
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2/11/10 * Question;
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I have a 1916 Piano that i
am wanting to sell, and I was wondering how much
I could get for it. The piano is in good
condition it just needs to be tuned.
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RE:
2/11/10
I would suggest you have a
Tuner-technician out to look at it-- if it is good,
you'll recoup your expense at the sell.
You'll have a
professional's word to back your opinion up.
Many people who don't know about pianos, will try to
sell thinking they have a "good" piano that "just needs
tuning" - and it turns out not to be the case.
You said it's a 1916 -- while I'm sure it's been
"Reconditioned" at some
point-- it still could (probably) needs extensive work.
It's best to have a tech's appraisal - it will get you
more in the end, if it is a good piano.
Sorry, it's just not possible to do appraisals without
being able to look the piano over.
- Rick Parks (Tuner-Tech)
Parks Piano Service (Weston, ME)
www.parksandsonspiano.com
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2/11/10
Truthfully,
Since the economic slowdown, a lot of people have been
unloading their pianos and it is a buyers market.
If you want to get anything for it, it had better be in
well maintained condition.
Sincerely, Michael Stumpf certified piano
tuner/technician since 1987
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1/26/10 * Question;
i have a 1908 william tonk @ sons automatic upright in
great condition. It was convered to electric and
stil plays great. It came with about 25 song rolls
and plays all of them. I was just wondering if
anyone knew anything about this piano, parts, value, or
anything will be helpful. Thanks -Paul
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1/24/10 * Question;
Does anyone know, about how much it cost to tune a
piano and to fix a few keys that don’t play?
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RE:
1/24/10
My price normally start at
125.00 for a simple tuning job.
Bill Weyforth, 410-652-0706
RE:
1/24/10
Basic tuning -- $120 TO $140
Pitch raise -- $50 to $90
Fix a key -- without observing the exact reason for the
malfunction -- impossible to quote.
Too many things can make a key not sound (hit) the
string correctly. Ewing Hughes
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1/23/10 * Question;
Some one has offered me a free "Cable"
baby grand piano. It is white, has some obvious chips in
the finish along some edges. There are three keys
sunken. The part that strikes the string appears to be
broken off. Overall it has a pretty good sound, but
knowing nothing about this type of piano I'm not sure if
I am biting off too much. I obviously know little about
them. I have a daughter who has been playing our upright
for nearly eight years and two others beginning. I'm
wondering if it is worth the TLC or if the repair would
out way the end value. Moving it and exterior
restoration will not be an issue for us. Thank you.
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RE:
1/23/10
The Cable is
typically a good pedigree, Obviously you don't want to
get a big problem, when you can more easily get a piano
that is in better shape to begin with.
>From what I see that you have outlined here, there
doesn't seem to be
>too much
to be concerned about. But ideally a trained technician
would do a thorough evaluation.
my price for an evaluation in the Hampton Roads, VA
vicinity would be $150.00.
A thorough refinishing job
for a grand piano would be about 3,500.00 . Keep in mind
having done both, I can tell you it is easier to paint a
3 bedroom home, that it
is to do a thorough
grand piano refinishing job.
SIncerely, Michael Stumpf
Certified Piano Tuner/Technician since 1987
michaelastumpf@yahoo.com
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1/12/10 * Question;
I have a old Chickering baby grand ( late 1800's I
believe) that we found in a church about 30 years ago.
I was in the process of having it restored/reconditioned
when we moved. At the time is was given new
hammers, dampers, pins, felts, keys and strings. The
case is not in good condition and the fall board is
missing. Twenty years later it is still in the same
condition, only now a string breaks about once a week.
Do not think that I have the money to restore it and was
wondering if there is anyone in the Hampton Roads, VA
area that might have any suggestions.
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1/11/10 * Question;
I have a
Wurlitzer 73 key acoustic piano. The serial number is:
371267. I would like to know what year it was
manufactured and where, what type or style it is and any
other information about this piano that is available. It
is in very good shape and has been recently tuned and
sounds great. Thank you for your assistance. Patty
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12/23/09 * Question;
My wife and I inherited a piano
made by the Shaw Piano Company of Erie PA. The piano was
left behind from the previous owners of our house (we
saw it as one of the signs that we should buy the house
since our last name is Shaw). We are in the process of
having some work done on the action so that the piano is
usable. There was no bench or stool with the piano. Does
anyone know if the Shaw Piano Company sold benches or
stools with its pianos? If yes, does anyone happen to
have a link to pictures of a Shaw piano stool or bench?
I'd like to take a crack at replicating a stool or bench
from the same era as the piano.
Thanks,
Brian Shaw
bshawmain@yahoo.com
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11/20/09 * Question;
My Mason & Hamlin Grand, which was
moved from Boston to San Francisco a few years ago, has
developed small cracks in the bridge that I had not been
aware of until the tuner showed them to me yesterday.
He recommends using super glue to stop the cracks
from getting worse.
Is that a good idea?
Is it necessary?
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RE:
11/20/09
Greetings.
I saw your posting on your Mason and Hamlin piano bridge
cracks. Super glue can work fine. Obviously there are
other things to consider. How bad are the cracks? Is the
bridge cap coming de-laminated from the bridge base? How
far have the side bearing pins moved? and so on. You
have a terrific piano and need to consider that it is
probably worth investing whatever it takes to do it
right.
Michael A. Stumpf, DaCapo Certified Piano Service,
Richmond. Virginia (804)291-1120
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11/17/09 * Question;
I am looking for a player piano repair
person. I have a 1914 Stroud in need of some repairs.
The late great Michael Kitner of Carlisle , PA repaired
the complete inside workings of this piano in the mid
80's.
the material on all of the bellows
have become very stiff. Mr. Kitner replaced the large
bellows, he never got to the piano key bellows before he
passed away.
I would like to have this repaired as
well as checking the moving parts looked and having the
piano tuned. The piano worked well before the problem
with the bellows.
I would like to have someone come and
look at it and give me a estimate the costs.
if you would like to respond to this
mailing please put (Player Piano) ins the subject
matters.
Thank you,
Sandie
The piano is located at my home;
Sandie sandie@pa.net
Shippensburg, PA 17257
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10/18/09 * Question;
I'm trying to find the
plastic parts to a Kimball grand pedal lyre
The plastic parts hold the
pedals in place and one end broke off
Kimball went out of
business in the 90's so this might be hard to find
Daryl Durand
ddurand@kc.rr.com
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9/25/09 * Question;
Interested in getting estimates on a piano
move/tune. Local move, Seattle's eastside.
Thanks!
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9/21/09 * Question;
Hi I recently receive a piano in a demolition job of an
old home. It says it is a “SHAW PIANO COMPANY ERIE PEN.”
The serial numbers are 6604. The hammers inside say that
the patent is Nov 26, 1878, it appears in good condition
all the keys work, it needs to be tuned and the exterior
finish needs to be redone, any value to this old beast?
I appreciate any help.
Eddie
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9/19/09 * Question;
Need some help. I have a Mason and Hamlin piano
that has been passed on to me through family.
Above the serial # is the letters “AR”. I didn’t
think Mason and Hamlin made a model AR. It’s A or
AA I thought. Any thoughts? Thanks
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9/17/09 * Question;
You are my last resort!
I have been trying for find out to set a resale value on
a digital piano. I have contacted the place of
purchase, the Yamaha Corporation, E-Bay, Craig's List,
etc. on and on, trying to find how to put a value on a
Yamaha PF-1000 Digital Stage Piano.
It has a bench, discs, headphones, and was
never used! This belonged to Mom
who never used it, and it ended up being stored in a
climate control facility and looks like brand new. No
scratches, honestly, never used! What would the
value of this be, so far no one in the family wants it.
Please, any help????
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9/17/09
Looks like Yahama Digital pianos (88 key) are running
from around $200 to 1,000, depending on features.
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9/7/09 * Question;
I just bought a
Nordiska upright and one of the keys (E key just left of
middle C) makes a tinny ringing sound after you release
the key. The store we bought it from was out to my
house to tune and voice the piano, but said that all
pianos make that sound. My kids have been playing
on their piano teacher's piano all summer long and I've
never heard her piano make that sound from any key.
He said it's where the brass strings end, and that's why
it makes that noise. I don't believe him and am
looking for a resolution for this.
Can anyone tell
me if my piano is suppose to do this and if not, how can
it be fixed.
Thank you,
JoAnn
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9/07/09
Hello JoAnn,
I saw your post and wanted
to chime in. I know the sound you are describing. This
is quite typical of some uprights where the long plain
wire strings have trouble damping properly. Your
technician is telling you the truth. Your teacher's
piano may not have the same string configuration I.e.
wound bass strings end at a different key.
Anyway the problem
can be minimized by improving the seating of the damper
and/or voicing the hammer so it doesn't accentuate the
high partials. Hope this helps.
Allan Day
pianomanday.com
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9/2/09 * Question; I would like to
know a good local technician that can rebuild a Winter
upright. Up til about a year ago it was in fine
shape. Needs restrung, peddle, and pad work, at
least. Either, in home or shop is ok. Would
like to get estimate so I can have this ready for my
mother by Christmas. Myles 386-409-2674 if
no answer, please, leave message.
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8/26/09 * Question;
Does anyone have a recommendation for
a tuner in Rapid City, South Dakota? I have a new
Mason & Hamlin AA that has been customized a bit by
PianoCraft in Gaithersburg, MD.
Elements of customization:
* Individually
tuned aliquots.
* Custom hammer weight
* Optimized hammer strike point
* Full action regulation - Multiple
passes *
Action geometry analysis
* Create "Dynamic Response Action"
with custom mass pattern
* Voicing - Custom tone build
* Voicing - Mass load bridge
* Voicing - Voice soundboard ribs
Thank you,
Rodney Michael
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8/24/09 * Question;
Is it necessary for an Arkansas piano tuner to obtain a
(Form W-9) Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN)?
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RE:
8/24/09
A W-9 is a form
people want you to fill out if they pay you more than
$600 for the year. A TIN isn't really necessary, just
fill out the W-9 with your SSN.
Melissa Hernandez,
Enrolled Agent
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8/16/09 * Question;
I'm looking at a Strauss upright with
serial number 92434.
Where can I find information about the origin,
age, parts for this piano?
Thank-you,
Mike
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8/13/09 * Question; I have a
dismantled 1898 upright Steinway piano. Any advice on
what to do with it? Thanks!
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8/7/09 * Question;
I just bought a 4 year old J
Strauss & Sons piano and got it tuned ASAP because it
was an hour and 45 minute move -- and of course, that
piano got taken apart, etc., during that
move. Should I have the PLAYER PIANO mechanisms, fitted
underneath the piano, checked out also? There is some
slight buzzing and fantastic Registered Piano Tech
John Gundersen from Neptune, NJ said that the Player
Piano mechanism, underneath, may be the culprit, causing
some vibration. He did an excellent piano tuning job.
Sincerely, Michele Spadaro, BA, MA Music Ed.,
Jersey Shore resident
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8/6/09 * Question;
Hi - I recently bought a Shaw upright
(Erie, Penn'a on key cover) with Wessell, Nickel and
Gross patent stamp Nov. 20, 1878 on action at a rummage
sale for $40. It's in pretty good shape, all things
considered
- has two missing hammers, needs some
TLC. Anyway, I know it's pre-1900 because of location.
Serial number is 12207 - anyone know what year of
manufacture is? Thanks!
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5/31/09 * Question;
Can anyone give me
some information about Kirschner uprights and Wilking
pianos? Are they of decent quality in general (if well
maintained, I understand)? Manufacturing history? Also,
is the use of aluminum instead of steel a reliable
construction for uprights?
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5/21/09 * Question;
I am contemplating the acquisition of a piano that is
being offered for free. The ad is as follows:
"upright wurlitzer, former iu piano, one key sticks a
little, needs tuned..." IU is a local reputable
university. I understand the need for a tuning, but the
issue of a key sticking, what kind of problems might
this be signaling? How serious could this be,
potentially? I have not yet seen the piano, but would
like to be a little better informed
about spotting potential money drainers/worthless
instruments.
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5/21/09
Hi,
Your piano key sticking problem is a humidity problem
where the piano should be in a place of a constant 45
percentage of humidity using perhaps a Holm 4 gallon
humidifier. If the key sticks constantly whether dry air
or humid air is around it then the key needs to be taken
out and shaved a bit and shimmed.
If it is a temporary problem you can put the key under
the front lip up and out to loosen it.
Not really a costly problem if you call a
technician in your area that is CERTIFIED.
Kathy in Canon City, CO
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3/20/09 * Question;
Where can I
find the material used on player pianos bellows? My
bellows ripped apart and I need to replace the material.
I need a PC. 4"X 30" long. Please advise
Richard Masse
Essex Jct. VT
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1/15/09 * Question;
We were given a 1952
Shoninger Spinet and wanted to use it as a starter piano
for our kids. Once we looked at it closer we
discovered that more than 20 of the plastic elbows were
broken.
I have seen advertisements
online for Vagias Elbow Replacement parts. The
adds seemed to indicated that a person can replace them
on their own.
Here are my questions:
Do these replacement parts
work? Should I try to do it myself or get a tuner
to do it? If it requires a tuner, would it cost
more than the worth of the piano?
Thanks, Connie
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RE: 1/15/09
Hi Connie,
The replacement elbows do work;
however, I would recommend that you hire a technician to
do the work. Removing the action from a spinet can be
challenging. It is generally not to expensive to have
done and worth doing if the piano is in good shape
otherwise. Call some technicians in your area and ask
what they would charge to make an assessment of the
pianos condition and replace the elbows if there are no
other major problems.
Allen Daniels
Daniels Piano Restorations
12/15/08 * Question;
We have an upright player piano. A tuning schedule
inside is first dated 11/08/1916. The piano was
made by the Shaw Piano Co in Baltimore MD. We were
wondering what year. The number inside is #24607.
It plays, but needs tuned. The inside player parts
are still there but the bellows are dry. Thanks.
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RE: 12/15/08
Hi!
I saw your inquiry about the Shaw upright
piano you have. You were wondering how old it is.
I also have a Shaw piano, but its place of
manufacture is Erie, Pennsylvania, and it was bought by
my great grandmother, brand new in 1896. It
is a beautiful mahogany upright grand, well made with a
fine quality sound board, with ivory keys, and it still
plays very well.
I looked up the Shaw company
and found that it was bought by a Baltimore man and
moved from Pennsylvania to Baltimore in 1900. So
that is your window of time. Yours was
manufactured in 1900 or later. That's all I know.
I hope you enjoy your old treasure.
Sincerely, Art Watson
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RE: 12/15/08
I recently saw your
question regarding your Shaw piano. The previous
responder was absolutely correct about the Shaw Piano
Co. In 1900 it was purchased by Chas. M. Stieff, Inc.
and moved to Baltimore, MD. The serial # 24607 shows
that it was manufactured in mid 1911. I hope this helps.
Steve Francis, Tustin, CA
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11/24/08 * Question;
Does anyone know about the
Mason&Hamlin/symetrierand?
It is being offered for free with
these comments from the owner:
This
piano was used by my children for piano practice. Both
of them are now in their thirties. The piano was used in
a jazz club, in Harlem, for years when I purchased it.
please note that it hasn't been played
in over 15 years so it needs some work
Please add your comments about this.
should I stay away from this deal?
jk
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| 11/11/08 * Question;
I need the opinion of a
professional. I recently purchased an
older piano and called up a tuner to come out.
I also explained to him that it was an old
upright that needed a wire string replaced and
that we were going to use it as a starter piano.
I inquired about what it would cost me. He told
me $99 to tune it and $30-$50 to replace the
string. I said fine, just do it.
He came out while I was at
work and told my wife everything that was wrong
with the piano and the costs involved if we
wanted to bring it up to pristine condition.
He kept talking and explaining to my wife about
all the options and ended up staying 2 hours.
My wife was courteous and listened and of course
we declined on everything except the tuning.
He told my wife that it was a third string and
not worth replacing He then brought the
piano up to pitch and said he would be back in a
month to tune it. He charged us over
$200 and wrote down consultancy and education in
the bill.
I did not ask for a
consultant.
I was not told there would
be a fee for that or that he charged by the
hour. My question to you is.
Is bringing a piano up to pitch a separate fee?
Or is that part of the tuning process.
To pay someone over $300 to
tune a piano was not what I agreed to. Please tell me what is
standard in your profession.
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RE: 11/11/08
Oh brother!
O.G. 11/17/08
RE: 11/11/08:
An honorable professional will always inform the
customer of any extra charges before the work is done.
The tuning fee sounds reasonable as well as the string
replacement. Pitch raise or double tuning fees vary a
lot. Some charge double the fee, some half the regular
fee, some base it on the degree of flatness of pitch
from A440 the standard and some charge nothing. I would
call this person and ask for the consult fee to be
refunded since you did not order that service unless
your wife agreed to pay it during the discussion. The
service persons fees should be itemized on the bill;
tuning, pitch adjustment (raise) and consult.
D. B. Registered Piano
Technician, Lake Mary, FL, 12/16/08
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